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    Exclamation Issues after Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

    After updating Windows 10 and the NVIDIA graphics drivers the following issues occur:

    • Disappearing and reappearing HUD elements as described in this reddit thread
    • Reproducible crashes for ALT-Tabbing out of PS2 (crashes 100%)


    Things I tried to fix the issue

    • Running everything in administrator mode (did this one regardless of the problem)
    • Running everything without administrator mode
    • Running everything with disabled fullscreen optimization
    • Disabled game mode (Windows 10 DVR)
    • No GeForce experience installed
    • Windowed / Fullscreen Windowed / Fullscreen doesn't make a difference
    • Recursion Legacy Hooks
    • Recursion Beta Participation


    I attached a cut version of my dxdiag.txt


    Thanks for the help!
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    Update: We can authenticate new builds against BattlEye now and I think I've found the problem we're having with the creators update. Currently working on a fix.

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    Update published to our beta branch. Please go to tools -> options -> beta pariticipation
    Then help -> update.

    This should resolve all of these problems.

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    I came to chime in that I'm on and have been on the beta branch for the entirety of the time I've used Recursion and I'm on the 0.11.0.900 Beta currently experiencing a myriad of issues that I finally tracked down to Recursion Overlay.

    The program can be running without the overlay with no issue, but when the overlay is running I crash when starting Planetside, when I start Recursion after Planetside and its coupled with MAJOR performance loss I can't even begin to explain.

    I was completely baffled logging on playing getting 30-35 FPS in a 48-96 Amp station fight when I typically get 60-70 min FPS on a i7@4.7ghz/1080/1TB SSD. I went through process of elimination on overlays with the Steam Overlay, RTSS, and Recursion and finally once the stat tracker in-game overlay was disabled my FPS returned to normal, and crashes stopped happening.

    Going to mention I'm also running Windows 10 Fall Creators update with the most recent updates as of my post. I also would crash from alt-tabs, this is all recent and on the beta branch as when I saw this post I went to move over to the beta branch and realized - I'm already on it! I've had no such luck.

    Edit: Going to try a fresh install of the stat tracker and see how that fares.... Edit #2: Just results in the same issues of crashing in-game and at startup so for now I'm just gonna disable the overlay.

    I kind of figured it was Battleeye for some reason since nothings changed with my setup but I run RTSS/Recursion everytime I play.
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    That performance hit shouldn't happen at all... Have you tried disabling the Creators update's full screen optimizations on PS2? Right clicking on the PS2 shortcut - properties - compatibility - disable full screen optimization. There's a chance that's interfering and causing a performance hit for us.

    Can you try disabling the geforce experience / shadow play if you run that to see if that's somehow causing a problem with us?

    One last debugging tip, you can turn on Impact Debug Display under RT display options. It will give an estimate of how much cpu time our overlay is taking up from PS2. Having it on actually lowers performance slightly since it's doing additional profiling and text display. (The number really shouldn't go above 5% and that's pretty high) but in your case I'm interested since you're getting a 50% performance impact at those amp stations.

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